Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) Mar 7, 2016 Hi all! I am thinking about buying a mirrorless-camera. I want to use the camera for travel-photography (mainly landscapes and street photography). Because mirror-less camera's are small/lightweight but also offer great image quality they seem perfect for traveling. Currently I have selected the Sony a6000 and the fuji X-T10 as potentials. (both have almost same price for the body + a kitlens 16-50mm) A6000 = great sensor and image quality but fragile body and expensive lenses X-T10 = easier shooting for a beginner, less fragile body, better (price/quality) lenses Is this about right? I'm just a beginner at photography and only own a simple point and shoot camera at the moment, so I can really use some advise ! My budget is max. €800 (body + kit-lens) Any tips/recommendations/anything to help me out? nandbytes • Veteran Member • Posts: 6,244 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) 3 lynnmeier wrote: also better AF, RAW support, video, features like zebra, etc. X-T10 = easier shooting for a beginner, less fragile body, better (price/quality) lenses Is this about right? lenses on both are expensive. Sony can somewhat be cheaper in future because you can adapt various lenses with PDAF support on A6300 (and I imagine future e-mount bodies). So you can use cheap options from canon, sigma, sony a-mount lenses with usable AF. i don't know about the build quality of XT10 but A6000 isn't fragile by any means. Sure its not weathersealed but that doesn't mean its fragile. It can handle fair amount of punishment, its not like it falls apart if you use it like any other camera normally! if you plan on using it in Arctic or the Sahara desert I suggest you buy something like 7D2, A77ii or D500 anyway I'm just a beginner at photography and only own a simple point and shoot camera at the moment, so I can really use some advise ! They are both capable of taking good pictures. Look at the lenses and decide based on that (not just immediately but also for future, remember Sony has better adaptability ). Sony a7 IV Sony a7R V Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 FE Sony FE 200-600 F5.6-6.3 Sony FE 35mm F1.4 GM +3 more Aerick • Junior Member • Posts: 34 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) 1 Honestly, both are good systems and both should meet your needs. Might I also suggest you look into the Micro 4/3s systems? The Olympus EM10 (I or II) is also in your range, has very similar image quality with an excellent range of lenses (many at lower price points) while also has IBIS and a touch screen. Sony a7R Sony a7R III Zeiss Loxia 21mm F2.8 Sony FE 50mm F1.4 ZA Zeiss Loxia 50 +5 more hyenadog • Contributing Member • Posts: 823 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) 2 worth mentioning that the Fuji like dslr's has a user settable minimum shutter speed on AUTOISO which is essential really if you intend to shoot anything moving in anything ther than good light The sony native lens range is poor with notably poor lens QC to boot (when compared to Fuji) The various Canon EF/Nikon/Sigma lens adaptors work with a very limited number of lenses and AF is slow to unusable even in bright light If you intend to spend serious money on lenses perhaps think as well about a DSLR - different world of lens availablity/quality/value and by the time you strap on a bulky lens or lens /adapter theres not much difference really in weight or bulk  csintexas • Senior Member • Posts: 1,184 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) 2 They are about the same. Each have strengths depending on your needs. the a6000 is certainly not fragile. Why anyone would consider a magnesium body as an advantage is a mystery to me. I would not drop a $500+lens camera in either case. The body cracking open is not a real concern. Fuji has a longer lens but ($1900) http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=fujifilm_xt10&products=sony_a6000 I felt the Sony overall was a bit less expensive but I got mine as an open box with kit lens for $465.00 and am happy with the selection of low end lenses. I doubt the Fuji is any easier to use but it does have some extra dials. I find for general shooting I would use one of the automatic modes or maybe aperture priority and not full manual so i do not see where the extra dials will come in that handy. I would say get which ever one appeals to you the most. Sony a6400 Sony FE 90mm F2.8 macro Sony E 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 OSS Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS +3 more Ambulater • Contributing Member • Posts: 967 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) 3 I am currently shooting with both the Sony a6000 (which I've had since release) and the Fujifilm X-T1 (which is an older and just slightly different version of the X-T10 - I've only had this one a couple of weeks). The Fujifilm cameras will not be easier to shoot with for a beginner, unless by "beginner" you mean, "beginning with digital, but experienced in film". I cut my teeth on film, as did many reviewers, so yeah, we find the Fuji cameras more intuitive because they were designed to have a nostalgic/retro appeal. If this is your first interchangeable lens camera, then I think you will likely find the a6000 easier to shoot with. In terms of price, there are a lot of really nice Sony lenses that are very reasonable. There are also some that seem overpriced. Fuji lenses fall somewhere in the middle of these extremes, but they're certainly not cheap. I think you could build a pretty nice Sony system for less overall than you could a well rounded Fuji system. Most people seem to think that Fuji has the edge in lenses for selection and quality, but it's debatable. I'm enjoying shooting with the X-T1 enough that I'm planning to sell my a6000, bag full of lenses, and a couple of flashes. HOWEVER, I don't recommend this for everyone and especially not a beginner. Again, if you shot film, you'll love Fuji. If you didn't, then the a6000 will be a better bang for the buck. It's more technically advanced and at a better price point. I got pretty beat up in this forum for talking about my decision, so I want to really clarify, I *DO NOT* think Fuji is a better camera. I just think it's right for me. I think for the overwhelming majority of people, Sony is a really good call. I don't think you can go wrong buying an a6000, but, as a beginner, you just might regret the Fuji. Just my two cents. -- hide signature -- Chris Lee Fujifilm XP120 Fujifilm X-T2 Fujifilm XF 50-140mm F2.8 Fujifilm 16-55mm F2.8R LM WR Fujifilm XF 23mm F2 R WR +3 more Neetle • New Member • Posts: 9 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) 3 I recently returned my a6000 and am now debating re-buying it and getting the X-T10. The reason I returned the a6000 was the lack of lenses. I like to shoot shallow depth of field pictures (yes, I'm a bokeh wh*re) and if you look at Sony's lens lineup, there are huge gaps. Take a look at the non FF lenses for Sony. If you want anything that's faster f/3.5 you have to get a bunch of primes. Yes, you can get SOME bokeh the zoom lenses, but you have to get up really close, or have the background super far from your subject. It's not really flexible, and still limits the kind of photos you can take. Ok, so look at Sony's primes; 35mm f1.8 ($450), 50mm f1.8 ($300) 24mm f1.8 ($1100!!!). That's it! 3 lenses! The 50mm on a crop (75 on a FF equivalent) is too tight for what I personally shoot. So really I only have 2 choices for lenses. Take a quick look at Fuji's system and you'll see a plethora of options. Fuji Fast Zooms: 18-55mm f2.8-4 ($600 or $300 with a body), 16-55mm f2.8 ($1000). Fuji Fast Primes: 16mm f1.4 ($800), 23mm f1.4 ($700), 35mm f1.4 ($500), 56mm f1.2 ($800), 60mm f2.4 ($450), 90mm f2 ($750) So not only are there way more choices, most of them are faster than Sony's fastest lenses. The only thing that's preventing me from hopping on the Fuji train right away is the harder to process RAWs, the lower megapixel counts (I actually do print a lot of my photos), and the slower AF system. If Fuji released an X-T20 that addressed these, I'd hop on that right away. If Sony would release a fast zoom (like Fuji's 18-55 or 16-55), I would pick up that and the 35 1.8 in a heartbeat and be really happy. But the fact that they have not released an APS-C lens in over 2 years, and seem to be focused on FF has me a bit worried about investing in the system right now. Part of me just wants to get an F-ing camera so I can just enjoy shooting, but having a limited budget, and how I plan on staying with a system for at least 5-10 years has me wary. Sony a6000 Fujifilm X-T10 Fujifilm XF 18-55mm F2.8-4 R LM OIS Sony E 10-18mm F4 OSS Fujifilm XF 23mm F1.4 R T3 • Forum Pro • Posts: 21,546 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) 7 lynnmeier wrote: The A6000 definitely does not have a "fragile body". I recently took it on a photo trip to India. I don't baby my equipment. I dropped it at least twice. It survived just fine. I did, however, put a silicon skin on it (as you can see below), but mainly to keep it from getting scuffed up. It handled getting knocked around quite well. I have absolutely no issues with the durability of the body. I certainly don't consider it to be "fragile" in the least. I regularly carry it in a messenger bag with minimal padding. As for the price of lenses, I think it's a wash between Sony and Fuji. But for me, Sony offers better value. For example, Sony offers the 35/1.8 OSS (image stabilized) for $448; Fuji has the XF 35/2 with no image stabilization for $399. I'd rather have the Sony OSS for an extra $50 because I find OSS to be so valuable. Likewise, I also have the Sony 50/1.8 OSS, which sells for $298. This is my portrait lens. With Fuji, I'd have to go for the XF 56/1.2 for $799, or the XF 60/2.4 for $449, neither of which have image stabilization. Also, Sigma has a collection of three excellent lenses (the 19mm f/2.8, 30mm f/2.8, and 60mm f/2.8) which are all very inexpensive ($199, $199, and $229, respectively) that are available for Sony E-mount (and m4/3-mount) but not for Fuji X-mount. At the end of the day, both are good cameras and systems. I also happen to own a Fuji X-E1, but I only have two lenses for it (the 27mm f/2.8 and the 18-55/2.8-4). Here are a few pictures from India shot with the A6000: Canon EOS 60D Olympus PEN E-PL3 Canon EOS M Fujifilm X-E1 Sony a6000 +17 more nandbytes • Veteran Member • Posts: 6,244 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) In reply to Neetle • Mar 8, 2016 Neetle wrote: well you could buy A6300, LA-EA1/3 and SAL 16-50mm f/2.8 I think the Sony APS-C lenses were built on a different philosophy to fuji. Sony has traded speed for size. SEL35mm OSS is really small and so is 50mm OSS. Fuji 10-24mm might be a better lens but sony 10-18mm is very light and small (not that fuji is huge but its still nearly twice the weight of Sony version). Fuji on the other hard has gone down the route of sigma with no expenses spared to get the best quality possible. (p.s. I am not saying one way is better than the other. Both are equally valid IMO, just choose what fits you) But the fact that they have not released an APS-C lens in over 2 years, and seem to be focused on FF has me a bit worried about investing in the system right now. I wouldn't worry about this. This is commonly the case with all manufacturers that support both APS-C and FF formats. Sony has more APS-C lenses than canon has for EF-S. Rightly or wrongly manufacturers just expect people to use their FF lenses on APS-C bodies. In case of Sony this annoys me a little me because it kinda blows the small size gear philosophy out of the window. But they still have a few small FE lenses that are useful on APS-C like FE28 and FE55. In case of telephoto lenses APS-C or FF will be pretty much equally big anyway. So might as well make FF in this case. Part of me just wants to get an F-ing camera so I can just enjoy shooting, but having a limited budget, and how I plan on staying with a system for at least 5-10 years has me wary. Also with A6300 you will soon be able to adapt things like sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 or sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 and while this many not immediately be an option for someone on a budget, if you are thinking 5-10 years down the line most Sony bodies will probably support this (considering Sony is still in this business in 5-10 years ) Sony a7 IV Sony a7R V Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 FE Sony FE 200-600 F5.6-6.3 Sony FE 35mm F1.4 GM +3 more csintexas • Senior Member • Posts: 1,184 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) In reply to Neetle • Mar 8, 2016 2 The perfect and inexpensive system has not been created yet. Will one of the major players make it or someone else? You will have to just pick what fits you best and/or wait to find out. Sony a6400 Sony FE 90mm F2.8 macro Sony E 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 OSS Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS +3 more cxsparc • Veteran Member • Posts: 3,853 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) nandbytes wrote:..well you could buy A6300, LA-EA1/3 and SAL 16-50mm f/2.8 Big but: No OSS with that combination, which for a standard zoom is quite a bit of a drawback. Sony a6000 Sony a6600 Sony E 10-18mm F4 OSS Sony E 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 PZ OSS Sony E PZ 18-105mm F4 G OSS +2 more nandbytes • Veteran Member • Posts: 6,244 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) In reply to cxsparc • Mar 8, 2016 cxsparc wrote:nandbytes wrote:Big but: No OSS with that combination, which for a standard zoom is quite a bit of a drawback...well you could buy A6300, LA-EA1/3 and SAL 16-50mm f/2.8 Its not like fuji 16-55 has OSS either (which was the lens in question by Neetle) and the lens+adapter combo is about the same size as fuji 16-55. Yes you lose out 5mm at the end but he has 24mp vs 16mp, plenty of cropping room there Its not uncommon for mid-zooms and mid-focal length lenses in general to not have OSS. Nikon primes in this area still doesn't have OS (while canon have updated some of their lenses with IS). basically its not that big a drawback imo. IIRC, nikon's equivalent doesn't have VR and canons equivalent does have IS (which he could also adapt). Sony a7 IV Sony a7R V Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 FE Sony FE 200-600 F5.6-6.3 Sony FE 35mm F1.4 GM +3 more Almazar80 • Senior Member • Posts: 1,705 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) 1 The A6000 is not fragile. As for lenses, the lenses are priced in line with the competition, for the most part (except for the Zeiss lenses, which are more expensive). You should go to a store and try the cameras out, if you can. There are plenty of good products out there. I like Sony, but you may have different needs and wants. rlyons • Senior Member • Posts: 2,303 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) In reply to Neetle • Mar 8, 2016 1 Neetle wrote: What about the Sigma 30/1.4 DN that was recently announced and will be shipping in a week or two? It's faster than any Sony prime at f/1.4 and is very reasonably priced at $339.00. I'm hoping that sigma rereleases their DN trinity in the faster aperture, especially the 60mm, which would make it the go to portrait lens for APSC shooters. Take a quick look at Fuji's system and you'll see a plethora of options. Sony a6400 Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS Sony E 10-18mm F4 OSS Sigma 19mm F2.8 DN | A +6 more JohnK • Veteran Member • Posts: 7,176 Fujifilm X-T10, (beginner) In my opinion the Fuji would be best for you for two reasons 1. The a6000 has advanced features that a beginner would probably not use until they had acquired some experience with photography. So a6000 would be too much camera for you at this point. 2. The higher image quality of the a6000 would not be needed by a beginner. I think a beginner would be well served by a basic camera that is "good enough", in that case the Fuji is for you, IMO. -- hide signature -- JohnK Off the record. Sony Alpha NEX-5 Sony Alpha NEX-5N Sony a6300 Sigma sd Quattro H Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM +20 more T3 • Forum Pro • Posts: 21,546 Re: Fujifilm X-T10, (beginner) In reply to JohnK • Mar 8, 2016 5 JohnK wrote: In my opinion the Fuji would be best for you for two reasons 1. The a6000 has advanced features that a beginner would probably not use until they had acquired some experience with photography. So a6000 would be too much camera for you at this point. 2. The higher image quality of the a6000 would not be needed by a beginner. I think a beginner would be well served by a basic camera that is "good enough", in that case the Fuji is for you, IMO. "Advanced features" can be ignored until you progress to a point where you need them. That's a lot cheaper than having to upgrade your camera every time you "acquire some experience with photography". As for your second point, who says high image quality isn't needed by a beginner? And it's not as if high image quality is a hindrance to a beginner. I think high image quality is valuable, and can be appreciated, regardless of what level of photographer you are. Plus, who's to say that a beginner can't become a very accomplished photographer-- in other words, "acquired some experience with photography"-- in just a few months, at which time "advanced features" and "higher image quality" become something that this photographer wants and expects? Both cameras are great cameras, but I would not choose one or the other based on the reasoning you gave (ie, "advanced features" and "higher image quality" not being needed). Everyone starts off as a beginner, but the great thing about digital photography is that it can really allow you to advance and gain experience quite quickly because shooting is free (unlike back in the film days, when every shot cost you money, and you only had 36 shots per roll of film). I've seen a lot of "beginner" photographers go from zero to advanced in a very short period of time. One reason to dissuade someone for going for an overly "advanced" camera, however, is cost. I generally tell people they don't need to pay more for a so-called "advanced" camera, because sometimes beginners erroneously think that paying for a more expensive camera will make them better photographers. However, in the case of the A6000 and the X-T10, I think in most places the A6000 is the less expensive camera. It's a bargain, at only $498 (body only). The X-T10 is a bit more expensive, at $649. Canon EOS 60D Olympus PEN E-PL3 Canon EOS M Fujifilm X-E1 Sony a6000 +17 more rlyons • Senior Member • Posts: 2,303 Re: Fujifilm X-T10, (beginner) In reply to JohnK • Mar 8, 2016 3 JohnK wrote: In my opinion the Fuji would be best for you for two reasons 1. The a6000 has advanced features that a beginner would probably not use until they had acquired some experience with photography. So a6000 would be too much camera for you at this point. 2. The higher image quality of the a6000 would not be needed by a beginner. I think a beginner would be well served by a basic camera that is "good enough", in that case the Fuji is for you, IMO. Hi John. I have a differing opinion to what you stated. Certainly not looking to start an argument, but one could argue that both cameras have advanced features and the features of either camera would not be fully utilized by a beginner. However, the a6000 has some of the best auto modes in a camera, making it well-suited for beginners that want to learn and grow. Along with the excellent i-Auto modes (for which there are two) it has many scene modes to help a beginner learn (as does the Fuji). Then, as they learn they can easily transition to some of the other more advanced features and settings. Additionally, you can never have too much image quality, so to state it's not needed is, well, a bit of a head scratcher. Fuji's are often more desired by pros because of their direct-dial access to settings and easy adjustment of them. IMO, these setting dials can confuse beginners so a more "hidden" approach that the a6000 takes in controls may be refreshing to a beginner, though this is highly personal. Having said that, both cameras are excellent but with their own (and different) strengths. Fuji has some faster lenses (f/2.8) zooms which are absent on Sony APSC. Sony has some affordable primes with OSS that are lacking in Fuji (though Fuji has some fast f/1.4 primes). I think understanding the differences is what is key to choosing a system, especially when one is just starting. However, when I was just beginning, I (admittedly) just didn't know enough and bought what was on sale. From there I learned a ton and discovered on my own what direction I wanted to take and could then steer my lens selections and body selections based on actual need, which one can't really discover until they're using a system and know their own style. Sony a6400 Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS Sony E 10-18mm F4 OSS Sigma 19mm F2.8 DN | A +6 more Ambulater • Contributing Member • Posts: 967 Re: Fujifilm X-T10, (beginner) In reply to JohnK • Mar 8, 2016 3 JohnK wrote: In my opinion the Fuji would be best for you for two reasons 1. The a6000 has advanced features that a beginner would probably not use until they had acquired some experience with photography. So a6000 would be too much camera for you at this point. 2. The higher image quality of the a6000 would not be needed by a beginner. I think a beginner would be well served by a basic camera that is "good enough", in that case the Fuji is for you, IMO. I suspect there is either a) sarcasm or b) reverse psychology at play here. -- hide signature -- Chris Lee Fujifilm XP120 Fujifilm X-T2 Fujifilm XF 50-140mm F2.8 Fujifilm 16-55mm F2.8R LM WR Fujifilm XF 23mm F2 R WR +3 more pb21 • Regular Member • Posts: 136 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) 1 Not sure if it has been mentioned yet but Fuji has a reputation for the best jpegs out of the camera, with some good film simulations. Something to consider if it will be used a lot when travelling meaning less PPing. Nikon D7000 NEX5R Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS +2 more nandbytes • Veteran Member • Posts: 6,244 Re: Sony a6000 vs Fujifilm X-T10, which one should I buy? (beginner) In reply to pb21 • Mar 8, 2016 pb21 wrote: Not sure if it has been mentioned yet but Fuji has a reputation for the best jpegs out of the camera, with some good film simulations. Something to consider if it will be used a lot when travelling meaning less PPing. I use camera a lot when travelling. I PP when I am back home at my leisure. I am not sure what travelling has to to with PP unless you mean something like travel blogging? which is another story... Sony a7 IV Sony a7R V Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 FE Sony FE 200-600 F5.6-6.3 Sony FE 35mm F1.4 GM +3 more You may also likeLatest sample galleriesLatest in-depth reviewsThe Fujifilm X100VI is the sixth iteration of Fujifilm's classically-styled large sensor compact. 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