2023 palisade headlights

Just brought home 2023 Calligraphy 3 days ago. I agree with all comments but one omission.

Seats are incredibly hard 3 days ago. Feels like sitting on a metal box with no padding. I can't tell a difference when changing driving mode.

I drove 60 miles and got out with a sore back side. Anyone else notice this? Is this adjustable?

Did you try the ergomotion button?

Just brought home 2023 Calligraphy 3 days ago. I agree with all comments but one omission.

Seats are incredibly hard 3 days ago. Feels like sitting on a metal box with no padding. I can't tell a difference when changing driving mode.

I drove 60 miles and got out with a sore back side. Anyone else notice this? Is this adjustable?

The seats are hard? My wife & I were commenting how plush our Calligraphy seats are. And the Ergo Motion is great for the driver's seat. I was surprised how strong the massage feature actually is...was expecting some lame 80s vibrating seat😂 We changed the interval to 30 minutes from the 1 hr default so it would come on more! I have a 2015 Genesis also with Nappa leather seats, and I'd say our Calligraphy seats are more comfortable.

• LFA/HDA2/SCC: This is the my absolute favourite - I can't believe it isn't advertised more?! I enjoy driving but driving with these features on makes driving easier and less tiring - can't wait to do a long road trip! Also, like that I can have either adaptive cruise or lane follow assist or both on and that LFA works on most roads. I would like at least a chime to sound when it suddenly turns off though but still think it's great!

Couldn't agree more. HDA2 is great and SCC "intelligence" generally seems much improved over my 2021 Calligraphy's version. I notice, in particular, the shorter delays in resuming speed after slowing and stopping to allow a leading vehicle to make a turn out of the lane ahead. My 2021 would remain halted until that turning vehicle ahead had cleared all lanes of a multi-lane intersection. The 2023 version only awaits clearance of one's own lane resulting in much less irritation for both yours truly and following drivers.

One minor gripe would be the re-assignment of the steering wheel buttons. I do like the separate buttons for SCC speed and lane following, but "retraining" my thumbs has been a bit of a pain. On balance, I guess it will be worth the temporary annoyance in the long run.

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P.S.: The "ergo motion" driver's seat's hourly activation surprised the heck out of me on my first drive home from the dealership. Since then, however, I've increased the frequency and even activate it manually now and then just for self-indulgence.

Just brought home 2023 Calligraphy 3 days ago. I agree with all comments but one omission.

Seats are incredibly hard 3 days ago. Feels like sitting on a metal box with no padding. I can't tell a difference when changing driving mode.

I drove 60 miles and got out with a sore back side. Anyone else notice this? Is this adjustable?

I found before adjusting the Lumbar support (press it back to reduce) that the seats weren't that comfortable on my back. If sport mode doesn't change anything then perhaps your seatback bolster is set too tight too? But I don't find the seats hard - I think they're nice. The ergo motion (comfortable stretch) is a bit much for me but my wife loves it.

Just brought home 2023 Calligraphy 3 days ago. I agree with all comments but one omission.

Seats are incredibly hard 3 days ago. Feels like sitting on a metal box with no padding. I can't tell a difference when changing driving mode.

I drove 60 miles and got out with a sore back side. Anyone else notice this? Is this adjustable?

I thought the driver seat was hard (compared to something like an audi or mercedes) until I hit the ergo motion... then it was heaven lol. For some reason i don't notice it as much now... maybe they soften up a bit after using the ergo motion???

Dislikes

• No 3rd row light?! Why can't the hatch light come on with the interior lights?
• It would be nice to have more space in the console area. We use one cup holder for sanitizer and that leaves one remaining cup holder plus the awkward to get to ones in the door.
• Carplay is USB only and the plug is in an awkward spot which makes it hard to lay the phone down when plugged in
• No power fold mirrors
• Not much engine info - no screen to display oil/coolant/transmission temperatures, no info on last or upcoming oil change

Likes

• New looks: The grill is a big improvement & interior upgrades incl. long vents and black console cover look great
• Bright lights: I usually like to have and leave fog lights on for more light but the bright Palisade headlights light up the road better than any vehicle I've had before WITH fog lights
• Vented seats: The vented seats (front and 2nd row) are great and the seat fan is quiet
• Sport mode: I enjoy the way the sport mode holds the higher gear and how the seats adjust when you switch into it
• LFA/HDA2/SCC: This is the my absolute favourite - I can't believe it isn't advertised more?! I enjoy driving but driving with these features on makes driving easier and less tiring - can't wait to do a long road trip! Also, like that I can have either adaptive cruise or lane follow assist or both on and that LFA works on most roads. I would like at least a chime to sound when it suddenly turns off though but still think it's great!

+100 on the headlights... hands down the best headlights in any car I have driven (have rented a lot of late model cars on bus travel).

The Palisade is the first car I can actually see at night with.

Will agree the Palisade has very good headlights, but I still miss the directional HIDs in my 2009 Genesis. I live in a fairly rural area of NJ with winding country roads, and you don't know what you're missing (up around the bend in the dark) until you don't have them anymore.

The seats are way better than the Infiniti QX60 Luxe. This is the first time in a few years that my right leg isn't having problems while driving, and the ergo motion - second setting is ah-maz-ing! I leave a few minutes early for pick-up at the HS, and just relax before the boys get in. So, so good.

Never drove a car with directional headlights so fortunately I don't know what I'm missing. Compared to my other ride a 2009 Nissan Murano they are literally like night and day.

Dislikes

• No 3rd row light?! Why can't the hatch light come on with the interior lights?
• It would be nice to have more space in the console area. We use one cup holder for sanitizer and that leaves one remaining cup holder plus the awkward to get to ones in the door.
• Carplay is USB only and the plug is in an awkward spot which makes it hard to lay the phone down when plugged in
• No power fold mirrors
• Not much engine info - no screen to display oil/coolant/transmission temperatures, no info on last or upcoming oil change

Likes

• New looks: The grill is a big improvement & interior upgrades incl. long vents and black console cover look great
• Bright lights: I usually like to have and leave fog lights on for more light but the bright Palisade headlights light up the road better than any vehicle I've had before WITH fog lights
• Vented seats: The vented seats (front and 2nd row) are great and the seat fan is quiet
• Sport mode: I enjoy the way the sport mode holds the higher gear and how the seats adjust when you switch into it
• LFA/HDA2/SCC: This is the my absolute favourite - I can't believe it isn't advertised more?! I enjoy driving but driving with these features on makes driving easier and less tiring - can't wait to do a long road trip! Also, like that I can have either adaptive cruise or lane follow assist or both on and that LFA works on most roads. I would like at least a chime to sound when it suddenly turns off though but still think it's great!

For engine info, get a Scan Gauge II. Works well and provides a weath of info including what you listed.

My only dislike is the bass boost option is no longer an option on the '23. It really pushed the lower frequencies in the 2020 I had.

For engine info, get a Scan Gauge II. Works well and provides a weath of info including what you listed. View attachment 7252

My only dislike is the bass boost option is no longer an option on the '23. It really pushed the lower frequencies in the 2020 I had.

Maybe it doesn't have the latest update. Check what you have, this is the newest update. It has the Quantum base. No Tubes! Although, I it doesn't have the "Haptic" for Lane Assist. Only the annoying beep beep sound. This is also a must in this vehicle, especially when you had it before.

New sw version: LX2.USA.S5W_M.V008.220504

agree with the above... also most of the usb ports in the calli '23 are usb c with an awkward usb b in the coffee holding space. the wireless charger is also odd as i need to angle the phone to get it into place and squeezing my hand in there to place / pull out is a task.
The qi charger which is a nice add should have been at a more accessible location .
Wind noise while driving highway speeds is annoying... never had that issue with my other vehicles but this certainly stands out especially when no radio or media is being used

The seats get better over time... its been 30 days since I got my Emerald green '23 calli and the seats appear to be settling in. The ergo massage on the passengers side would have been a welcome addition as well.

My passenger windows are hazy, initially i thought it was because of the way the dealers tinted the glass but another user on the forum says he asked the dealer for a replacement and am waiting to see what happens.

ACC and LFA work well, but forward collision assist at standard and late settings do not, it does not give a warning for a vehicle in front when it slows down or if a vehicle comes in on the highway and got a warning only once in the past 30 days. Not sure why ...

A lot of car information comes up on the blue link app which they offered for 3 years but am guessing after that they are going to have a subscription model and charge us for it. I like the digital key when it works and maybe the valet mode tell me the car has gone out of the zone, but not sure what the geofence is for.

agree with the above... also most of the usb ports in the calli '23 are usb c with an awkward usb b in the coffee holding space. the wireless charger is also odd as i need to angle the phone to get it into place and squeezing my hand in there to place / pull out is a task.
The qi charger which is a nice add should have been at a more accessible location .
Wind noise while driving highway speeds is annoying... never had that issue with my other vehicles but this certainly stands out especially when no radio or media is being used

My passenger windows are hazy, initially i thought it was because of the way the dealers tinted the glass but another user on the forum says he asked the dealer for a replacement and am waiting to see what happens.

ACC and LFA work well, but forward collision assist at standard and late settings do not, it does not give a warning for a vehicle in front when it slows down or if a vehicle comes in on the highway and got a warning only once in the past 30 days. Not sure why ...

A lot of car information comes up on the blue link app which they offered for 3 years but am guessing after that they are going to have a subscription model and charge us for it. I like the digital key when it works and maybe the valet mode tell me the car has gone out of the zone, but not sure what the geofence is for.

The USB in the cupholder area is type A, not B. But yeah, it's annoying that's it's different than all the other type C power ports. This is a fail on Hyundai's part since this one port is the data port for Apple Carplay & Android Auto, there's no technical reason it couldn't be type C, other than they would have had to engineer the different port since the wiring is slightly different. Having the Qi wireless pad, it's completely useless having to plug in for Carplay and Android Auto. This a fail again on Hyundai not having wireless for their top of the line infotainment system when they have lower model cars with it. I got a Carlinkit wireless carplay/android adapter...works surprisingly well so that mostly resolves this issue. Also agree the Qi pad is sorta a pain to get your phone down in there correctly. I get they are using "available space", but it should have just been centered on the left side of the bin.

I haven't really noticed it, but my wife & son also said the back windows are hazy? I'll have to look closer. The tint in the back rows is factory applied, unless you wanted the dealer to install darker tint.

The highway driving assist will only give audible warnings if it thinks the car will be imminently crashing. Having it alarm every time someone pulls in front of you would be highly annoying when it just needs to slow down a bit to maintain the set distance.

Bluelink: yes, after the 3 yr included with the car, it reverts to a paid subscription. Not sure we will keep it since the only real useful feature is the remote locking/starting from the app and the key fob can remote start too. I only kept Bluelink for my 2015 Genesis since it was the only way to remote start my car. Vehicle tracking is nice, but knock on wood my car doesn't get stolen! The geofence feature is really for child drivers. Example: kids are permitted to drive to school and work, but if they go somewhere else, the car/app will tell you.

The highway driving assist will only give audible warnings if it thinks the car will be imminently crashing. Having it alarm every time someone pulls in front of you would be highly annoying when it just needs to slow down a bit to maintain the set distance.

That is not what HDA does. What you're describing is front collision alert/avoidance, which is on regardless of HDA. HDA improves upon Smart Cruise Control, only on roads that Hyundai deems it suitable for (as per the built-in navigation database). With HDA, you can set the Smart Cruise Control to the speed limit of the road you're on and it'll automatically adjust it for you when it changes. But if you're not exactly at the speed limit, it doesn't work. It also lets the car auto-resume driving in stop-and-go traffic for up to 30s, instead of 3s on non-HDA roads. On some models (maybe on the 2023 Palisade, I don't recall), it automatically slows down for curves. It's not clear if it improves the Lane Following Assist or allows hands-off driving for longer on HDA roads.

Bluelink: yes, after the 3 yr included with the car, it reverts to a paid subscription. Not sure we will keep it since the only real useful feature is the remote locking/starting from the app and the key fob can remote start too. I only kept Bluelink for my 2015 Genesis since it was the only way to remote start my car. Vehicle tracking is nice, but knock on wood my car doesn't get stolen! The geofence feature is really for child drivers. Example: kids are permitted to drive to school and work, but if they go somewhere else, the car/app will tell you.

Bluelink also allows the nav to actively re-route you around traffic jams, which I can personally attest works perfectly. Waze had nothing on it (except warning of cops) in locations where I've used it.

And it allows for search of points of interest over the internet instead of only the nav system database.

The things that bug me the most are:
1. No power folding mirrors (HUGE hate)
2. The ergo seat. We are getting the short end of the stick here. We are missing one of the best features of this seat. On my Genesis, it had the option of entering your height and weight and then it would choose and make the adjustments automatically and it was wonderful!!! Best seat settings I had ever had. I miss that function.

For engine info, get a Scan Gauge II. Works well and provides a weath of info including what you listed. View attachment 7252

I realized since I posted there is info on last service and next service at least and I really like the monthly email that says # of stops, distance driven, and hours!